Articles by Kathleen Murray

Stone Circles and Sacred Sites – Everything is stored in Stone and Bone…. 

Introduction by Kathleen Murray  6th September 2000

Article for Namaste magazine

The stone circles in our land are a beautiful part of our heritage that I have been drawn to explore.   They are sources of living knowledge and contain the wisdom of our ancestors.  I believe through spending much time on the stone circles of Aberdeenshire, there are hundreds here, that they are far older than has been previously recognised.  Yes they were used by the Celtic peoples, and the Druids, but I believe that they were not built by any peoples that we know.

When I say they are ancient I feel they belong to a time before our recorded time, that they belong to a land beyond belief.   Lemuria, the land that imagination has forgotten and that does lie beyond our beliefs.   Lemuria has left its records in the crystals and stones of our planet.

I was born in Aberdeen and live now in Aberdeenshire between two sacred mountains, Bennachie and Tap O’ Noth, the mountains of the Goddess and God.   There are many many stone circles in this area.

Here is some information channelled from Mahasamatman and the crystal skulls I work with:

Greetings to you, lovely human beings.  It is our joy and pleasure to be with you and to take you on an exploratory journey through the riches of your past.   For the riches of your past can be the riches of your and our future together.  That is why they are worth exploring.   The stone circles and the sacred sites of your land hold the keys to unlock the resonances that your planet, the lovely being of Gaia are moving into.   Most of you know that these are important times of change, humanity and the Earth together are changing, and monumental times that you will all look back upon and smile at your own awakening to your wisdom, to your realisations of your own spirituality and to the purpose of your lives.   Each one of you has chosen this incarnation for many reasons.  The most important one has to be the healing of yourself.   For each and every one of you holds the access to the wisdom of the universe and your personal access is through your own healing of self.  It has to be this way, there are no shortcuts to this simple truth.   You have asked to come into this life to heal all wounds of separation essentially to Mother/Father God, God Goddess and the Divine Source of Creation, whatever you want to call it.

In your own healing you gather back your own power, and what a power it is!   You are powerful beings in human incarnation who have undertaken to take part in this big movement of the Ascension of your planet Gaia into Light.   Gaia cannot move through this process without the help and support of beings who have been with her since the beginning of time – YOU.   You are that ancient, you are that eternal.   Any of you who have felt drawn or shown an interest in stone circles and sacred sites, once were the tenderers and caretakers of these sites.   And in these roles you knew their purposes and knew how to unlock their power and potential.   For you stone circles and their mysteries are magnetic.   Your soul keeps calling to you to remind you that it is part of your journey in this lifetime to explore and rediscover the riches they hold.

We will tell you some stories to help you with your remembrances of who you are.    Please read this with your heart connected to your mind, and not only to the conscious mind that you are so familiar with, but read it with your subconscious and unconscious minds, and with your access to the universal mind open.   You may wish to go into a deeper state of relaxation and affirm that your mind is linked with the universal mind through your heart.

Lemuria, when you were gods and goddesses experiencing all that was in creation.   When you could shape-shift into flowers, plants and trees, creatures and all forms of life.   There was not the density in the land or in any living consciousness for Gaia was still well in her light body holding very high energies in comparison with now.   Her living physical body was in formation and you who chose to be her companions were also in your light bodies.   This was quite an exciting challenge.  A new planet, a new realm of existence, a new paradise to play in – full of hope and joy, potential and fulfilment, born of Love and Light, all as expressions of Divinity.

You are all from the Universe, you are all part of the Universe, and part of every single detail in its wholeness.    Gaia was a star before she became a planet and you chose to come from the stars to create this paradise with her.   Aah…the thought of weaving a magical land full of all the creatures from your mythology!   All mythologies of all cultures and peoples hold part of the stories of creation, all pieces which relate part of the bigger story, or as you are fond of saying- pieces of the jigsaw- of the richness of your ancestors before recorded time.

You all knew that for Gaia to become your new homeland you would need gathering places to share knowledge and experience and places which could be seeded with universal knowledge.   The stones which became (came into being) on these sites, physically embodying the energy fields of portals to other dimensions, are receivers and transmitters, of information that is exchanged between universal consciousnesses.

Loved ones, your planet is a talking planet!   The vibrations that are emitted from these sites can be heard, though not usually by human ears.   Stone circles and sacred sites are communication points for the whole of creation.    You all have spiritual families which reside not only in this dimension, but in other dimensions which have their physicality in the stars, or in universal vibrations with no specific form.

Your spiritual families, your ancestors, can look after you and communicate to you through the portals in the stone circles.   Each stone circle has a different purpose.   Some collect and exchange genetic information, as to the ever changing state of human consciousness, Earthly and stellar libraries put together, libraries of information of what has been, and what will come again as we gather all the fragments of ourselves to recreate the potential for wholeness.

The wholeness that you attain gives you a perception of a world far greater than you know now, but deep inside you there are memories of this world of Lemuria.   You will find these memories in your hearts and through your souls.   You have asked to be reminded of your mission to connect, and we are here to remind you.   We are just like you, only we have chosen our incarnation in crystalline form.   We, with you, have seeded Gaia’s physical body with beauty and treasures of joy.

To visit these Sacred Sites even if you only experience them with your outer senses still means that the same interaction takes place.   You and your living energy field exchange states of resonance with the stone circle.   Stones within the circles all play different parts in receiving and transmitting this information.    You have to do nothing but just be there.   So by your presence on these visits you are taking part in the bigger picture.

And you have the choice to participate more fully with your conscious mind.   Imagine the pleasure you can have by going to sacred sites knowing you can learn while you are there and exchange your knowing with the stones!   As that old saying goes – everything is stored in stone and bone!   So you may participate by meditating at sacred sites.   You can ask to know the purpose of the place and consciously speak to the guardians of the sites.   If you do this give yourself time to be attuned to listening for the reply, however it may come.   You may need several visits to a place before you are attuned to hearing or feeling or seeing the response.   Or you may still your mind, relaxing and going into meditation, just to be at peace.   It is your choice.   We are trying to encourage you that everything you do will make a difference.   Of course it will be a far more energetic experience for you if you go as a group all aligned with the same intent.   So we encourage groups that meet regularly for meditation to make an outing to local sacred sites.   You may even claim your favourite park in a city as a site to treat as sacred.   It need not only be the traditional sacred sites that can hold the vision of peace for the future.

Of the well known sacred sites, many have been shut down in the past and are awaiting their time before operating more fully.   Some will never work again as the energy will flow through new sites, so be open to finding surprises when you tend the land with care and love!

We do stress the importance of visiting stone circles and other ancient stone sites like cairns, standing stones and burial sites.   The places at this time, and in the future will open their doorways, their portals into the other dimensions.   Some to the inner Earth and the powerful earth keeper crystals which record fluctuation in earth energy and maintain a balance flowing through your planet of the vibrations needed to move into the next phase of opening of consciousness.   And we talk of all consciousness, humans and all creatures and plants, all kingdoms are here to take part together.   Crystal skull consciousness links very closely with the guardians of all dimensions.   For we are guardians of sacredness throughout the universes.   We are closely linked with your devic kingdom.   We are the beings who seeded humanity.   We are you.   You seeded you.   You chose to create and recreate yourselves.   You chose the whys and wherefores of your own procreation.   That is what we mean when we say you or we are the creator gods and goddesses.

Imagine that!   You are that powerful.   And you are on your journey to rediscover that power.   And to make it easy to reclaim power when you have given it away, when you are healing all the abuse of being a victim, remember to call in God, Goddess the Divine Source of creation.   You will be helped into wholeness, you will be supported and nurtured, you will be nourished and provided for.   You will heal the separation from your father, from your mother, from the Divine Masculine, the Divine Feminine.   You will hold your knowing-ness of your divinity in your hearts.

Light workers unite, you can all tend the land that is nearest to you and your hearts!   You can share your prayers for peace for your world at sacred sites, not only for transmission to the rest of your planet, but to the rest of the universe.    And all will answer your prayers.   Know that as each and every one of you awaken to the role you can play as a guardian of the Earth your energy and commitment will be matched a hundred fold by other guardians of the Earth and heavens.   Together we will make the difference, we can bring the vision we all hold of the return of the Lemurian vibration.   To the Lemurian vibration which is of peaceful power in heart and soul centred creation.   It is the Lemurian vibration of Oneness in Divine Spirit, in Divine Being.   You are all that Divine Being.    You have an opportunity to Divinity returning to each and every one of you, though in actuality it has never left.   It is you who will drop all the illusions that have crowded your perceptions for many lifetimes, throughout many dimensions.

You will let the barriers fall down, you will knock the fences down, you will gain momentum and then you will tear down the veils and entanglements of illusion, until you see yourself as you truly are.   You, the great shining Light infused with energy of your soul, at one with the cosmos.   At one through the realisation of the greatness of who you are, Divine Beings, beings who know they are Divine.   This is the ultimate healing, the ultimate wholeness- the state of no separation from God, Goddess, All That Is.   You are God, Goddess, All That Is.   You are Divine!

Loved Ones, we leave you in Our Love and honour you for your presence, Namaste,

Mahasamatman

ARE THESE THE LAND CLEARANCES OF THE MILLENIUM?

Published in Namaste magazine 2001 

It is time to look at the bigger picture of what is going on with Foot and Mouth Disease in the UK today.

In my last article in Namaste in October, the beings I work with were encouraging Light workers to go out on the land and take on the role of Earth Healers.   Now the guidance has changed.   Over the last few months I have been aware of the access that Non Divine Beings have to our Sacred Sites.   They are actively being called into our Sacred Land by humans, at sacred times, full moons and especially the powerful Equinoxes and Solstices.   Whether the humans involved consciously know what they are doing and the destruction they are inviting or not is debatable.   I feel that there are two groups.   Some are in unknowing of the consequences and are playing with black magic, some are not and are indeed fully participant in violation of the dignity and respect for human life.   Abuse of power and sexual abuse of children and programmed adults, including sacrifices are something we have to face sooner or later.   It is a totally unsavoury subject, and sends many people into processing.

Introduce a disease into the picture which stops people from accessing Sacred Sites across the land, and then bring in trauma and fear in the sacrifice of thousands of animals.   We have a massive scale of blood- letting which will spread terror throughout the crystalline grids and energy body of our Earth Mother.   You will have heard of the theories and truths of the power games that are being played with us, sourced and controlled in higher vibrational realities.  Have we been programmed, as part of the New Age Movement not to acknowledge the Dark with the Light?

Yes, it is a shock, as I have found it, to experience high vibrational light beings controlling our Sacred Sites, and continuing to control humans by entrapping them in fear, and using all kinds of ways to stimulate base emotions which are directed into their ceremonies.   Of course these other dimensional beings have their puppets in the humans involved.   This is a great reality which we have to wake up to.   Until we can face what is going on we cannot heal and take part in the healing of the land and humanity.   Light workers we are being told it is the time to face the shadow in us all.   And what could most abstractly be called the shadow in God.   That is why I call them Non Divine Beings.   They have beautiful light bodies, but no hearts and souls as Divine Beings have.

Until we as Light workers can embrace our own shadow and the collective shadow of humanity, we cannot move forward into the Freedom to Live in Love.

I will share with you the symbol that I have been given to work with humans and specifically land sites.  It is called the Non Divine Being Transformer Symbol.   I have watched it work.   In conjunction with a crystal assigned as a Non Divine Being Transformer, we can set up a high energy field by calling on the Divine Source of Creation, and all the Archangels and others who are assisting in transformational work.   If you are drawn to working with crystal skull consciousness, then call on these magnificent multi-dimensional beings who are the Ancients of our Land.   They are here specifically to aid humanity in their journey to reclaiming their power and their knowing of their own Divinity.

Align your heart in meditation; open yourself up to the Love of God, Goddess, All That Is, and focus on this symbol. Place the chosen crystal on the symbol and let it work through your energy field from Source to transmute, transfigure and transform these beings.   This sets up such a high resonance to clear the land that these beings either have to leave, or accept that they are ready to embrace a knowing of Being Divine.   I have seen both happen.   And the objective of Freedom to Live our Lives in full knowing of our own power always happens.   Each one of us needs to affirm this.

We need to reclaim our access to our Sacred Land.  In Scotland we carried out a Sacred ceremony Spring/Vernal Equinox.   I asked members of our spiritual family throughout the world to join us in ceremony to honour the Sacredness of Life.   We gave of our physical bodies, as we were guided to let the land feel the impact of our genetic codes.   We put into the Earth our blood, our creation of our DNA codes weaved together to symbolise the preciousness and sacredness of Life.  We gave all we could in Love to transform the fear and the trauma which is being released into our beloved Earth’s grids by those who wish to see humanity to live in fear through the slaughter of thousands of animals, which will not stop the disease.   I am sure I do not have to remind you that many of the slaughtered animals did not have the disease.    This is a repeat of the message to humanity to live in fear and accept outside powers laying down laws, the laws of countries and the Universal Laws which are being misdirected to pollute the Cosmic Life Force.

If we do not act we are accepting a dire fate of still battling and struggling to have the Freedom to Live in Powerful Divine Heart Love.   If anyone wishes to join us in giving of their DNA codes, stand up and be counted.    And stand up and give a few drops of your blood and very precious life force energy to the sacred sites you live in, and amongst.   Worldwide people have participated in giving their powerful life force energy at the equinox.   This is just the beginning.   Please join us over the next weeks and months, until the slaughter and the trauma is stopped.   All you have to do is intend that the energy and life force of your DNA is joining a bigger bank of coding which we place in our Beloved Earth, dedicated to the Freedom to Live in love.   Collectively we will make a difference.   For men you may have to consecrate blood you let yourselves (by pricking your finger), and women your menstrual blood is the greatest gift you have.

Blood is the most significant at this time as we are working with those who wish to see the control of human beings through blood sacrifice.   When we give freely, totally from an empowered heart space, we can change the lower vibrations that will flow through the land.   When we use the Non Divine Being Symbol, and ask for the transformation in all realities, we are doing wonderful work in uniting together with Freedom in our Hearts.   Let’s make the commitment and make the difference!

Non Divine Being Transformer symbol 11 from Crystal Keys

The Choice of Life or Death by Fear and Delusion

My Cancer Story by Kathleen Murray

October 2004

Published in Namaste Magazine

29th Feb. 2004 Aching flu, feeling an ache and pain in a lump in my breast. Oh yes, that lump, I’d forgotten about it. How long had it been there? Guilt. I noticed it ages ago – but only in the passing – when was that? May have been the year before last, in the autumn – wasn’t it around the time when I was moving kilos and kilos of stones down from a nearby hillside, into a trailer and then wheel barrowing them into the garden?

I rationalized that it could be an oedema, fluid forming around muscle tissue right on my pectorals. That rationalization I used to comfort myself over the next few months until I was given the diagnosis of breast cancer.

Next day on my daughter Joy’s 4th birthday I went to my doctor. I took an appointment with a woman doctor who had recently joined the practice. She asked a lot of questions and I felt intimidated as I answered ‘no’ to them all. No history of breast cancer in my family… she gave me the feeling of wasting her time. She did do a clinical examination and summarized that both my breasts felt fibrous and that could ‘just be me’. She would however give me what I was asking for- a breast scan and tests to determine whether cancer was present. I came away feeling humiliated and vowed never to take an appointment with her again.

Three weeks later I went for a mammogram at Aberdeen Royal Infirmary. Before I went I received a card for an appointment with a consultant at the Breast clinic – not until the 18th May (10 weeks after seeing the doctor). An accompanying leaflet spoke of results in 10 days. I hoped that I would be that quick. I wanted to know. I wanted it all in the past, dealt with whichever way. I used my rationalization to keep the guilt at bay. How could I have neglected myself?

I began focusing in my personal meditations and daily healing sessions, asking for anything I held within me that would create cancer to come to the surface. I actively wanted to work with it and face it.

On 18th May I dropped my four year old off at a babysitter’s for the day and headed into Aberdeen. I stayed as calm as I could, answering lots of questions as to why I’d come for the appointment. At the first clinical examination I realized that the lump was bigger than I’d thought. My breasts were smaller than usual (time of month) and when I lay on the couch, as the flesh from my breasts fell to the side of my body, clearer than ever was the LUMP, looking larger and more solid.

I was answering positive to questions which instinctively told me that the lump was cancerous and not benign. The surgeon came to examine me. She said that there was hardly a shadow on the mammogram, but after the examination she asked if I would stay for more tests- an ultrasound scan and needle aspirations. The professor interpreting the pictures on the screen again strengthened my feeling that I could have cancer, especially when she said, “I don’t like what I see here at all”. The needle aspirations were sore. No anaesthetic, just a needle put several times into the lump in my breast.

There were two ladies trying to get the tumour cells onto a slide to look at under a microscope. Afterwards I was shown into a room to wait. Finally four women came in together. First was the one who had recorded my details, along with the surgeon and two breast care nurses, one in training. The surgeon told me I had cancer. All the disbelief in me turned into emotion and tears came fast. I turned into mush and asked if they could give me a moment. I wondered how other women cope. I felt I couldn’t take any more information.

One of those moments when every emotion I had been suppressing came welling up, dissolving any right brain capacities. She paused only for a short while as the surreal scene unfolded. The surgeon showed no emotion at all. The first lady looked distressed and uncomfortable. The older breast care nurse looked like a cardboard cut-out and the younger one in training looked sympathetic and curious. The surgeon recommended removal of my right breast, the lump was too big and my breast too small for it to be removed as a lumpectomy. Reconstruction was possible either in one operation or I could wait months before making any decision. My head was swimming.

The breast care nurses stayed, the others went. I spoke about the loved ones in my life who had had cancer (my spiritual family). The older one didn’t want to dialogue on the recurrence of cancer which usually kills people. She also told me not to bother looking at the information on the internet- it was too confusing. She gave me NHS booklets. I said I would be doing my own research.

How would I tell my children, my two girls? As a single parent how could I organize my life so it could be as normal as possible for the time I would be in hospital for the operation and when I would be disabled for several weeks- unfit to drive, cook, clean and lift my children. I was emotional but worked out that it could all be possible. I saw another GP at home who said he could arrange for the community nurse to bring in carers while I recovered. The surgeon was insistent that my breast be removed as soon as possible.

I started my research. I had been recommending the Phillip Day material to people who had come to me for healing, www.credence.org  – so time now to engage myself in reading ‘Cancer – why we’re still dying to know the truth’ Phillip Day; ‘Great News on Cancer in the 21st Century’ Steven Ransom; B17 Metabolic Therapy in the Prevention and Control of Cancer’ Philip Day. I was astounded at all I read.

The origins of the drugs used for to treat cancer horrified me. During the Second World War a ship carrying mustard gas exploded. In the autopsies carried out on crew members, it was noticed that exposure to mustard gas had caused the destruction of fast growing tissue and had slowed down the reproduction of white blood cells. It was surmised that since cancer grew rapidly, these poisons could kill cancer tissue swiftly. (Steven Ransom has sourced this information from John Moelaert, The Cancer Conspiracy, Moelaert Publications, June 1999).

Mustard gas will kill a person in four to five weeks – a painful death with internal and external bleeding, and mucous membranes being stripped off the bronchial tubes. The scientists were right; exposure to these gases did kill cancerous tissue. Only it is likely the patient dies from toxic chemicals long before any tumours are eliminated. Chemotherapy has its origins in chemical warfare and every drug developed for four decades that is active against cancer has produced side-effects reminiscent of the research results on chemical warfare.

I ordered apricot kernels and Essiac tea. I changed my diet to follow the guidelines of creating an alkaline environment where cancer can’t grow. I learned the importance of detoxing and focusing on hydration.

A week after my diagnosis I went back for a biopsy. The Breast Clinic took the opportunity to get me to fill in the forms for admittance to hospital for the operation. By this time all I was experiencing was through the lies of it all. Chemotherapy can only kill cells and destroy immune systems. (My lump was too big too shrink with chemo, I was told). Operations to remove tumours can spread them. It is a surgeon’s personal choice how many or all of the lymph nodes they remove at the time of the operation. Radiation destroys.

 I saw 3 women wearing wigs, one because of the hot day boldly and happily being bald with the beginnings of new hair growth. I felt so sad that it was too late for them to try any alternatives to the cut/burn and destroy. By this time I was beginning to feel courageous enough to defy the cancer machine, the voice of authority of the NHS and a surgeon who felt no alternative viable to removal of my breast.

I was still shocked only hours after returning home from the biopsy, to be offered a place in the operating theatre the following week. I would have to let them know immediately, the breast care nurse said, if I wanted a reconstruction done at the same time. Now I was getting angrier. The biopsy was to confirm cancer and I had been told the results would take 2 weeks to come through. How could they offer me an operation without having the cancer confirmed first?

I refused an appointment with the surgeon for June 8th, as it was a phenomenally energetic day to do healing – Venus transit, a Galactic Activation Portal and one of Pacal Votan’s 13 days in the Mayan sacred calendar, the T’zolkin (211). I wanted to spend the day with friends doing personal and planetary healing at Findhorn. We had a beautiful time, doing deep sound work and working with the ancestors.

My guidance was now to increase the dosage of vitamin B17, which I had been getting from apricot kernels and other foods. I phoned Credence and was told there were only 4 doctors in the UK who could give B17 in high dose tablets by prescription. I chose one and made an appointment for the following week. My tumour started aching on certain days. The first time I noticed dramatic sensations was the day after the Venus transit. It felt like labour pains. I kept a focus on myself and tumour as I felt these ‘shafts’ of sensations run through the tumour.

June 15th and the journey to the hospital to tell the surgeon that I wouldn’t be having an operation or any treatment. I was feeling nervous. I was also feeling defiant and angry at all the fear and delusion around cancer.

My loved one Paul had resigned his job in Norwich to be with me and support me through the breast cancer. This was the first hospital appointment when I had someone with me. I was happy of the support. It is a challenge to speak your truth in such an intimidating environment. We were kept waiting 50 minutes. This time the dynamics were very different. Paul and myself, the surgeon Miss Smyth and the breast care nurse. Without clearly stating the biopsy results she restated that the only thing she could recommend was operate, a mastectomy immediately.

I didn’t know what I was going to say. I heard myself saying “I’ve managed to shrink the tumour”. Silence. I offered to show her, by this time used to undressing and showing my breasts. She gestured to the medical couch. I could see she was in a spin. She felt both breasts and I pointed out the biopsy scar, the small cut the man had made before launching a thick needle from a gun into my frozen breast. There was still bruising, fading after now 3 weeks. I said “Look at the scar. There isn’t any hard lump underneath it now. The tumour is all over to the right side. He didn’t put the biopsy needle into the side of the tumour, he took the cells from the hardest part to get a good sample. Under the scar it is all flesh now, all soft.”

Miss Smyth didn’t say very much. I said that I wanted to continue working with nutrition, diet and vitamins. I didn’t want the operation. The silence of disbelief was enormous. I repeated twice that I didn’t feel that this was particularly life threatening. That seemed to disturb them even more. Not the usual reaction of unquestioning obedience.

The tumour was shrinking or had it moved? I innocently asked. I wanted out of the hospital. I didn’t want to waste any more time there. But I was asked if I would stay and have the tumour measured again by ultrasound. I said yes only after stating that it didn’t matter what size they told me it was, I was going to work away with it on my own. I felt there was no reason to trust these people.

There was a long queue of women waiting for scans and needle aspirations. Again I requested knowing what time I had to wait. I would do as they asked but not if it involved waiting 4 hours. I was promised an appointment with Professor Gilbert in about an hour. I was told she was very willing to see me.

There was another doctor with her and the nurse in charge. Although Professor Gilbert didn’t have the images from four weeks ago, she had the size of the tumour in her notes, 5cms by 3 by 2 cms. She was very interested in alternative methods and asked me to explain what I was doing. To keep it simple I kept to the scientifically proven B17 metabolic therapy and the nutritional regimes that the cancer clinics use. (I thought speaking about my meditational and healing practices with light would stretch them too far) I also spoke about my appointment 2 days later to see a private doctor in East Sussex who would prescribe high doses of B17.

She acknowledged that I had done a lot of research and although she couldn’t be sure, she felt the depth of the tumour was now 1cm instead of 2cms. She said she couldn’t be sure of where she measured the other sizes from. When I pointed out to her about the flesh under the biopsy scar being soft now, she did laugh and say that tumours weren’t known to move. She asked me if I would have another chat with Miss Smyth the surgeon and explain how I knew what I was doing and that I was well researched.

“Are you asking me to make her more comfortable?” I asked.

“No, er… yes” she laughingly replied. “Interesting that I have to make her feel more comfortable” I said. Apparently Miss Smyth’s team were all very aware she wasn’t handling the situation very well.

She had a different approach when we saw her again. This was a woman who clearly believed that she was doing the right thing, and could not be questioned, who was used to being obeyed with a reverence close to God. Finally she did ask if it would help for her to write to the private doctor. Dr. Young-Snell had asked about the tumour marked test CA15-3. She looked at me blankly when I asked her about this. Clearly the NHS do not spend any money on checking the amount of cancerous activity in a tumour – an inexpensive test- when they choose to do an operation with Miss Smyth’s time and £500 of reconstruction materials for a new breast. To say nothing of the drugs they would want to offer me later, probably to be on for the rest of my life.

I was so glad to get out of that Breast Clinic and hospital. One part of me was angry inside at the deception of so many innocent women. Innocent women who are very vulnerable and trusting, not knowing what else to do, after all these are meant to be our nation’s health care experts. And there is always a fear that once a person refuses to take the NHS treatment, they will be refused help when they request it at another time.

Innocent women of all ages being encouraged to take life destroying drugs, losing their hair, their full feminine body and perhaps their power and their dignity and self love and self- esteem – all for nothing. Women have enough to fight within themselves when they have breast cancer without wasting their precious courage and misplacing their faith in inappropriate statistically unproven methods, misrepresented to them as the only way, treated by experts in their fields. A surgeon can only recommend cutting parts out of another person – that is their job. Perhaps they should not head the team of carers assigned to women. I feel the emotional vulnerability and the fear which surrounds cancer is worse than the disease itself.

20 days after my bid for freedom from the NHS system, my GP took a blood sample to send to a private laboratory for a CA15-3. Dr. Young-Snell, the cancer specialist in B17 therapy suggested the one was taken at the beginning of the treatment and another 3 months later, usual readings for breast cancer would be around 300, and if the second test showed about 50 this would be considered successful, continuing with the nutritional and metabolic treatment until the cancer is gone.

On 5th July my first blood sample was taken for the CA15-3. On 17th July I listened to a message on my answering machine, my GP was telling me that my result was 5, and this was a normal result, the normal range being less than 28.

NO CANCER. 7 weeks after being diagnosed. 7 weeks of working with my fears with all my focus. Intently healing myself and calling in all my resources. Bringing in the nutritional guidelines and chewing apricot kernels (7 a day is recommended as a prevention for cancer). Stepping up the dose of B17 after 3 weeks, but really only 2 weeks of following an intense detox, hydration and nutrition and vitamin regime to get these results. I only spent 2 weeks following the ‘traditional’ vegan cancer diet. It didn’t suit me. I lost weight and energy, and took myself off of it, following the guidelines of my Chinese herbalist/Ayurvedic doctor instead.

I still follow the detox guidelines, though now I can relax. I am still shrinking the tumour – even the NHS measurements allow that it is 1cm smaller in 2 dimensions. I have had a second CA15 – 3 reading normal, 3 months later.

Many people have healed themselves of cancer. But some people don’t know how to. Although I am a healer with resources, I did use a scientifically proven method. I want to give a message of hope for everyone with cancer. It is becoming more and more common. Humanity has a lot of deep seated anger to release. The message of hope is that if you want to cure your own cancer and greatly improve your health, there are many ways to do it.

Nutrition is a building block of health. We need to boost our immune systems to help us fight any disease. It is crazy to accept chemotherapy which kills all cells and damages our immune system. We are living with more and more toxicity around us, in our food, our water and the air we breathe. Living and eating organically has been a must for me to return to health.

The good news is that it is never too late. Even people who have been given up to die by the professionals, if they want to live then B17 can help, intravenously and then orally. And yes this costs money. Can you put a price on your life? Can you deny yourself and your family life? There is always a way. Read the testimonials on www.credence.org and in Philip Day’s ‘CANCER Why we are dying to know the Truth’.

Post Script to My Cancer Story 

I have met with surprise from people. A person following spiritual practices and a healthy diet – how could they get cancer? Why not, is my reply?

We live in a world weakened by chemicals; fluoride in our water, aspartame in food and drink, our endocrine system and immune systems overtaxed with poisons and toxins. Our bodies are crying out for the freedom to be pure and natural.

We are following our soul’s journey – whatever we need to heal will be presented to us. My cancer was seeded during a very traumatic time in 2000, when the two people closest to me discovered they had cancer. One died, the other didn’t want to have me and his newborn daughter in his life anymore. I was angry. I dealt with what I could, the pain in my heart became cancer in my right breast (heart chakra). I was vulnerable, my immune system weak with sleep deprivation and my inability to maintain my health.

I tell my story to give inspiration to others. My aim is to spread the word about vitamin B17 and the many other cancer cures that exist. Statistics show that cancer may soon be affecting 1 in 3 people. There is manipulation of fear around cancer. Our fear becomes predative and feeds destruction and any issue of self destruct we carry. My message is one of hope, I hope it serves well.

Kathleen Murray November 2004

Kathleen Murray is the Director of the Academy of Crystal and Natural Healing, based in Aberdeenshire, Scotland. She is the author of The Divine Spark of Creation, the Crystal Skull Speaks ISBN 1-902711-05X and has taught workshops in the UK, Ireland, Holland, America, Brazil, Iceland, Hungary, Belgium, Greece and Australia. She is well known as a guardian of crystal skulls, including Sammie, Kalif, and three ancient jade skulls. She is interested in working in depth with cancer and terminal illness.

Quotes from Great News on Cancer in the 21st Century, Steven Ransom:

there is no proof that chemotherapy actually extends life…the great lie about chemotherapy (is) that somehow there is a correlation between shrinking a tumour and extending the life of a patient.” p 19 

“My studies have proven conclusively that untreated cancer victims usually live up to four times longer than treated individuals. For a typical type of cancer, people who refused treatment lived for an average of twelve and a half years. Those who accepted surgery and other kinds of treatment lived an average of only three years.”  Hardin Jones “A Report on Cancer delivered to the American Cancer Society’s 11th Annual Science Writer’s Conference in New Orleans,1969

“Some may baulk at the accusation that a concerted suppression of successful, non-conventional cancer treatments has been taking place.    …global spending on conventional cancer running into billions of dollars annually, any news of a successful, non-pharmaceutical anti-cancer approach might be expected to upset the status quo.” p12

“In the UK alone, £2.8 billion a year is spent in the conventional cancer emporium. That ‘s roughly £6,800,000 a day” p12

From a French Cancer Specialist, Prof. Charles Mathe, “If I contracted cancer, I would never go to a standard cancer treatment centre.” p16

“The immune system is hit particularly hard by chemotherapy and often does not recuperate enough adequately to protect from common illnesses, which can then lead to death.” p17

some patients develop another form of cancer as a result of their treatment with chemotherapy and radiation.”   p21

Label on a Glaxo chemotherapy bottle

Warning: Leukeran (chlorambucil) can severely suppress bone marrow function. Chlorambucil is a carcinogen in humans.   p23

Phillip Day Cancer Why we’re still dying to know the truth

“whether any of the common cancers can be cured by chemotherapy has yet to be established.” John Cairns Prof. of Microbiology at Harvard University p13

P15 “Many medical oncologists recommend chemotherapy for virtually any tumour, with a hopefulness undiscouraged by almost invariable failure.”

The Cancer Interview for Paradigm Shift

11th June 2005 

How did you first become aware that there was a problem that needed investigation? 

I first became aware that I had something other than flu and continual illness, which was diagnosed as chronic fatigue, at the end of February 2004.  My immune system was down.  Alarm bells went off in my head.  One of the parts of my body that was aching was a lump in my breast.  I felt it was suddenly quite big and I didn’t know how it had got there.  To calm myself I rationalized it was an oedema, fluid forming around muscle tissue on my pectorals. I used this rationalization to comfort myself while waiting for a diagnosis.

I went along to see my GP and had a horrendous time there with a doctor who looked at me in disbelief.  I was apparently in the wrong age group and without a history of cancer in my family.  I felt intimidated and humiliated, but I insisted that I have a mammogram.  I was given an appointment for a mammogram three weeks later.  It was 10 weeks after my request that I saw the specialists at the breast clinic in Aberdeen.  My consultant was a surgeon who after a clinical examination asked me if I would go for further tests with ultrasound, and then and needle aspirations.  She then told me that I had cancer in my right breast. Hardly stopping to give me time to digest this news, the consultant recommended that I have my right breast removed as the tumour was quite big, and said it was better that it was done immediately.

I was really shocked, very emotional and very vulnerable.  In some ways it is perhaps every woman’s nightmare, and a shocking reality to face – an operation like that, immediately.  I suppose I am always suspicious of the accuracy of tests and I thought and hoped the biopsy, to be done a week later in Aberdeen, would prove I didn’t have cancer.  I was really angered when after returning from the biopsy I received a phone call offering me a place in the theatre the following week.  I completely lost my faith in the NHS.

How long did it take to get the biopsy results? – did you ever get the results?

I was told the biopsy results would take two weeks to come through. I post-phoned an appointment offered to me for the 8th June (2004) as it was a phenomenally energetic day to do healing. A Venus transit, a Galactic Activation Portal and one of Pacal Votan’s 13 days in the Mayan calendar, T’Zolkin 211. I gave myself more time to do healing and went in to get the results a week later.

What did you do once you found that you had breast cancer?

After the cancer diagnosis I began my research.  I knew of the Phillip Day material, www.credence.org ,  so now it was time to read it all for myself.  ‘Cancer – why we’re still dying to know the truth’; ‘B17 Metabolic Therapy in the Prevention and Control of Cancer’; and ’Great News on Cancer in the 21st Century’ by Steven Ransom.  I was horrified at all I read.  How could all this information about cancer cures be suppressed for so long?  Why?  And who would want to control people’s lives with deadly drugs which don’t offer your body an easy way to recover?  I couldn’t believe that the treatment used by the NHS actually damages your health.  Many of the drugs used in chemotherapy are carcinogenic!  All damage the immune system, which is why the cancer is growing in the first place.  Cancer can’t grow in a healthy body with a strong immune system.  It is now recognized that cancers start growing relatively frequently in our bodies, but most don’t become a problem because the immune system spots the different cells and dispatches T cells to destroy them.

How did you feel during this time, and how did you deal with those issues?

Now I know and I can feel what every other person feels who has cancer – the thoughts and the emotions and the negativity that comes back whenever you are open and vulnerable.  In the first few weeks every time I felt these waves of negativity hit me, I would not deny that they were there.  I knew that the cancer was caused by suppression of emotions, of anger, of resentment, and I needed to live through them as part of the process to release myself from the disease.  So the cancer had triggered the very emotions that had caused it.  Anger at being unable to cope stuffed inside my bodyand when I was told of the diagnosis the disease brings up the very conditions that caused it.  I remember spending time feeling why me?  I would be out looking at people in supermarkets and going about their daily work and wondering why me?  The feelings are real. They need acknowledged.  I had days when the tears wouldn’t stop flowing.

The experience of discovering you have a terminal disease, makes you look at life.  It made me look at my life, at how I have lived it, and what in me was here to fight for life, for what I believe life to be, which is not as a body that has had surgery.  I did go through a stage where I felt I would just like the lump cut out and that would be an end of it.  I guess that it is part of the cancer picture to feel over-burdened, over responsible and over identifying with others. 

What options were you give by the NHS, how did you feel about those and what was your response?

I was given no option by the consultant in the NHS.  She was a surgeon and recommended surgery immediately.  I was outraged.  I was also glad she didn’t suggest chemotherapy to shrink the tumour, which is what they often recommend.  It would have been another issue to battle with them.  The consultant I had found me very difficult.  The other members of the team she was heading were happier to listen to what I decided to do, except for one breast care nurse who told me not to waste my time looking for information on the internet.  She would give me all the information I needed – NHS booklets which made me very emotional.  This is a whole system set up to support victims and you can feel like a victim when you have cancer.  It would be easy to fall into the support they offer. I did consider it but at the same time I was researching the alternatives.

Given your background and knowledge what did you decide to do, and how did you chose your course of treatment? 

Is/was this the day you were actually having the test?

Yes.

While waiting for the biopsy that day, and listening to a Lazaris tape on the nature of healing, I took courage and great inspiration to hear the truth that if we say our desires truly from our heart,  that we do not wish to be ill, then it will be so.  We can send those signals out and the universe will respond.  It sounds so simple!

I decided to order apricot kernels and Essiac tea.  I changed my diet completely to assist my body detox and to turn my body into an alkaline environment where cancer couldn’t grow.  I learnt the importance of hydration (most of us are very dehydrated).  When I was eating the maximum recommended does of B17 through apricot kernels, I was given the guidance to increase the B17.  I was given the name of four doctors in the UK who prescribe B17 in tablet form or intravenously, as in the cancer clinics, from Credence, Phillip’s Day’s company.  I chose one and set up an appointment for the following week.  He also recommended that I see a specialist in nutrition who would monitor my diet.  I had been seeing an Ayurveda doctor since the beginning of the year to help with the chronic fatigue.  He had suggested that I increase my levels of protein to rebuild all the energy I had lost.  After being a vegetarian for 30 years, I started eating meat.  I was willing to give anything a go to improve my health.  Along with acupuncture, herbal tinctures and major diet changes, I triumphed over the chronic fatigue.  I was not willing to lose energy and weight by following the traditional cancer diet.  I did try it for two weeks, found I did lose weight and energy and recommenced my meat and fish eating – all organic of course.  No wheat and no dairy, steamed vegetables and organic short grain brown rice.  Nothing processed at all.  I was sprouting seeds and juicing vegetables, eating nuts and taking supplements of minerals and vitamins in high doses to make things very easy for my body to arrest and reverse the cancer.  The guidelines I were given from the cancer doctor and nutritionist were, feel good and my health would increase.  Nothing in the treatment should make me feel unwell.  What a contrast to conventional treatment!

What was the response of the NHS to this?

I delayed my next appointment to give me time to work with my own healing.  About a month after the diagnosis I saw my consultant.  She didn’t tell me the result of the biopsy, only restated that the only thing she could recommend was to operate, a mastectomy immediately.

She didn’t give me much of an opportunity to talk to her about what I was doing and what I intended to do.  She wasn’t used to being disobeyed and she was very bullying.  I felt strong enough to face her, especially when I knew my tumour had shrunk!  When a biopsy is taken they shoot a large needle into the centre of the tumour (a suspect process as it could spread cancer, the same as a surgical operation).  The scar I had from my biopsy was now to the left of the tumour lump.  It was not in the middle, and where there had been a hard lump was now soft flesh.

I said “I have managed to shrink the tumour”.  No response.  I invited her to look.  She didn’t say very much when I told her I was continuing to work with nutrition, diet and vitamins.  I didn’t want the operation I told her.  Silence.  She was disturbed when I said that I didn’t feel the situation was particularly life threatening.  I asked her if tumours shrink or move.  She left the room.  A breast care nurse returned and I was asked to have the tumour measured again.  I agreed to this after stating that it didn’t matter what size they told me it was, I would be working with my cancer on my own.  I really didn’t trust these people.  The professor who was measuring the tumours was very open to discussion and interested in what I had to tell her.  She knew the theory of the alternative practices and wished me luck.  She also asked me to have another meeting with the surgeon, who was stressed at my approach.  Her team were all aware that she wasn’t handling the situation very well.  I left the building with such a sense of relief.

But I also was feeling angry at the deception of so many innocent women, women who thought they were being given the best treatment there could be, or the only treatment available for cancer.

In practical terms how easy was it to implement your chosen programme, what did you experience and how did you feel during this time?

Over the next few weeks I continued with my healing regime.  Sometimes I found it difficult to get all the organically grown vegetables I needed for my juices and to eat.  I wasn’t working at the time, just concentrating on healing, mediation and feeding my body all the nutrition and hydration I could.  At times I felt trapped inside such a disciplined regime.  Nearly every hour of the day I was giving myself supplements or eating or drinking.  Spontaneity couldn’t exist, which I missed.  However all the mundane focus on reversing the cancer was a great therapy in itself.  Everything I did was a positive affirmation of my choice to live and to beat the self destruction.

The cancer doctor I saw who gave me the B17 tablets advised me to have a CA15-3 tumour marker test done. One as soon as possible and another every few months to monitor progress. I changed my GP to an understanding and supportive man who was willing to help me in any way he could.  It took us some time to find out how to do the CA 15-3, which private laboratory to use etc.

Seven weeks after being diagnosed with breast cancer I listened to a message on my answering machine.  It was my GP telling me the CA15-3 result was 5, the normal range of cancerous activity monitored is less than 28.  The cancer doctor said that normally the result would be around 300 for breast cancer, and success would be reducing to around 50, continuing over time until the result was below the normal range of 28.  It took quite some time for this to sink into my knowing.  NO cancer!  I had hoped for this result but what floored me was the speed at which I achieved it.  I still had the tumour and continued to shrink it, being able to relax and feel the pressure off.

What kind of regime are you now following?

Now I am still shrinking the tumour.  I have continued with most of the dietary advice, since my health has been so good – the best I have had for years!  Everyone comments on how healthy I look!  I am sure a lot has to do with the amount of water I drink.  For the last couple of months I have been drinking 4 litres of water a day, with organic lemon juice squeezed into it to cleanse and keep my body alkaline.

Have there been any setbacks?

Earlier this year I found myself stressed financially.  I had coped better when the cancer was my top priority, but since starting work again and being self employed supporting my two girls with my earnings, getting solvent again seemed a long way off.  I took myself off my supplements, not by guidance, but from not coping with my financial commitments.  My tumour stopped shrinking. I found another hard bit and I knew I had to re-look at my cancer picture.

I decided to find a new way to work with cancer now, without the B17 in tablet form.  I started taking vibrational remedies that I made myself.  I have an electronic homoeopathic machine.  I went for ACMOS testing and balancing (other people I know have used kinesiology to test whether certain products are right for them).  Pam Robertson in Dundee has been very helpful and supportive.  We could test for the energy levels in all the vitamins and minerals I was taking.  Surprisingly, some of the expensive ones recommended by the cancer doctor tested low in energy.  I had made vibrational remedies from my juice mixes and for the work I do with crystals.  These all tested very high in energy.  Now I make vibrational remedies for most of the vitamins and the B17, which gives me a lot of freedom!  I also dowse to find the correct doses and alter them when needed.  I listen to my body and to my guidance.  I have recently found an Amazonian herb called Graviola which has had great success with cancer.  This can be bought through a company called Resonance, www.resonance-health.co.uk

I have learnt so much that I want to share with people.  I want to take the trauma out of the healing crises of disease.  I feel it is on my spiritual path to share what I have learnt, through my professional work as a crystal healer, channel and teacher.

I asked my beings that come through my crystal skulls and who guide and support me, why disease is very challenging for us.

“The Magic of Healing has limitless possibilities with which we very often interfere.  There are some very simple natural laws that govern the healing essence in every sentient being.  These laws are laws of truth spoken from the heart, signals sent out in wholeness and in purity, from one source to another source and responded to accordingly – the laws of creation and manifestation.

Now why do we manage to distort, entangle, block, cut off, defend ourselves from and sabotage all these lines of energy of source coming directly to us to assist us with our healing?

Where is the oneness, the wholeness of Love in any aspect of disease?  Very abstractly disease in any part of the body is Love that has forgotten itself.

Any of the issues that we have concerning illnesses relates to the processing that we need to do to clear our emotional and mental bodies, which allows our physical bodies to arrest the development of the disease.

Love that has forgotten itself is a resonance in fragments.  Fragmentation can become disease.  If we are to truly act as a conduit for Divine Love, with our resonant energy field asking from Source for an infusion of energy, we need to be there open and ready to receive – always in communion, always in union, always in balance within that wholeness.

However within humanity there are many common blocks and self-sabotage that form defences and violent actions logged within humanity’s consciousness, subconscious, unconscious – matrices of disease.  Matrices of disease that have been sown in times gone by on the Earth.  One of the reasons for the fall of Atlantis 3 is the spread of a disease very much like your cancer.

There was a time when the downfall of Atlantis was known as imminent, every living being incarnate and disincarnate made different arrangements to accommodate the fall of a huge energy source.  There were Lemurians and others who had been trying, and dying, to save the Earth. There were Ones (who are nameless) who desired the fall of all species that had opposed Their mastership of planet earth. There were living beings (including Lemurians) within all the kingdoms who opposed domination by this malevolent force, which was interested only in use and abuse of the living gracious energy from these beings.

Every being responded true to their own, and the ones who were holding the vision of wholeness once again return so all the fragments of every living being in every species can come together again.  They left the imprints of wholeness hidden.  Many beings have discovered these now, but there are many hidden, many more to be found – they are codes.  The Lemurians who left them left them in all manner of things, everywhere, so that access could be found by every living being who would return to this state of seeking.  Because they would return to the very moment of the destruction as it hit them and they would be taken there by a certain disease.  And that disease is cancer.

And it is working in all your bodies.  It is more true to say that every living being is growing cancer right now.  Now more is understood of the nature of cells, their growth and what controls their growth. Although every individual organism is running its own programmes, has its own issues and its own body consciousness with its life agendas – there is an overlying matrix and that overlying matrix has a need to control human beings.  It was set in motion in the latter days of the third civilization of Atlantis by the large insectoid beings who had formed their own council from many different stellar nations.  They had joined together in their common cause to take the power of the Earth, Gaia’s consciousness and humanity’s to be used for their own means.  To be used as an energy source to be manipulated.

These beings seeded inside themselves and inside humanity a need for a particular cellular movement at a particular time.  This kind of thing can also be called implants.  So the control for use of energy which creates in human beings a need to self destruct…

So there is a need to find in humanity now as many ways as possible to allow freedom from this control game.  We know some of you will find it horrendous to know that the extent of control on this planet is everywhere.  Larger than you could ever imagine, because it is everywhere.  It is not just underlying one aspect.  The actual matrix for self-destruction is everywhere, this is how it was seeded.  This is why your cancer figures are coming closer and closer to one in three people, and the potential for going to one in two people, and then to everyone.

Sound and light can play so much a part of healing of this nature.  Vibrational Healing is needed to break through these matrices, the matrices that hold disease.  There are matrices that hold every single disease.  It is a format which every being with a human consciousness has access to.”

I have always been given guidance from the beings that are with me, from my soul’s council over the years, to never suppress my emotions, that they are the power that humanity is known for, the power of their Love once these emotions are transformed into Love, into wholeness, into resolution, into Oneness.

I listen to myself, supporting myself, but I also have a discipline to work with the negativity.  When I had my cancer I worked  with meditations in the morning, in the evening, at night, as often as I could.  I asked for help from friends to look after my children, Joy, aged four and Amethyst aged ten, while I could do as much healing as I needed.

I was taken on journeys by my guides – Journeys into my tumour.  So that I could work with the consciousness of the cells and through those cells I could follow the pathway to a whole array of beings, the ones who have seeded cancer on this planet in those days long, long ago.  They are here now to reap what they have sown.  There are many strata of these beings, and some of them are in human kind, those we may know as the Illuminati, the Dark Brotherhood, those for whom our governments are puppets.

Channelled 11th June 2005 

You must never give up your search for freedom, it is in the essence of yourself.  The disease matrices exist in every single one of you and if a button is to be pushed then a potential for manifestation of cancer and other terminal diseases is actualized.  If you have that potential for manifestation of disease then you also have the potential for the dis-creation of that disease.

And what is it that stops you from knowing your own power in your health, in your wellbeing?  Fear.  Fear that has been implanted in you so deep that it is taken multiple opportunities in many lifetimes for you to release your fear, to release the need to be controlled by your fear, releasing the need to be controlled.  For all these beings cannot control us unless we have a need to be controlled. From your perspective it may seem that it is an infinitesimally small part of yourself that needs to be controlled, but that part still holds its energy in the matrix. It might be one tiny, tiny part and therefore will not have a lot of impact of your whole, but the more each one of you has a fear, and a fear of a need to be controlled, ultimately that alone has the right resonance for the controllers to assist you with what you ask for, self –destruction.

Because that is the nature of cancer the fields of fear around cancer then consume every person who has the disease, and also consumes their loved ones and also their family and friends.  All united in the same fear of death by a disease which is known to kill, all completely united by fear.  And the person who has the cancer is fearful of themselves.  They have ignited in themselves by hearing a diagnosis of cancer, a fear, a fear of their own death, a fear of their own self –destruct and they find themselves in fear of themselves as much as of the disease.”

I remember listening to voices in myself who went into martyrdom, playing a martyrdom drama- all part of the cancer picture.  It is important to counsel yourself, to listen to these voices.  The most wonderful and beautiful thing to attain is that you have a you that observes yourself, that you can feel united enough with your higher self to listen to these personality parts, lower selves, negative ego, your negative ego, consuming you.

It is important to listen but not be consumed, and important to be there to witness yourself.  You may ask for help to do this, from your higher self, your guardians, your guides and your council.  I had fascinating journeys into my tumour, exploring the consciousness with my guides when I was actively working with the cancer in my own body.  For I was wishing to create a temple of Light, filled with Divine Love, around my tumour, around myself.  To create a high resonance that would transmute, transform and transfigure all aspects of the disease within me, and I was taken on magical journeys.  I have recorded four journeys of the same nature as the ones I went on myself (unrecorded at the time). These are available on CD entitled, Soul Reunion; Journey into Self; Trust and the Temple of Light; Council of Elders.  In these journeys, you are connecting in with your higher self, your Divine presence, your guardians and guides and your soul’s council.

So for every person who strives to attain an expanded consciousness, they become a way-shower, they are taking a light into the ultimate darkness of destruction for the human race.  For all these beings who have the courage to go in there and hold their light and their truth and their healing as a statement of their being to the universe, the courage is immense.  The journey can be triumphant, you need faith to follow this one through to its end, and you develop faith as you follow faithfully.  And you develop a spiritual and heavenly rapport with your earthly self through looking after yourself at all levels of being.

Spiritual and physical bodies working together, clearing emotion and negativity through your subconscious and unconscious selves, freeing yourselves from the matrices of destruction, freeing yourself from seeds sown in Atlantis, allowing yourself to be a beacon of Light, an inspiration for many others.  All of this may mean not going down the NHS route, not taking any drugs that have been developed as poisons that are cancerous in themselves, so that you are always held in a disabled state.  Chemotherapy, radiotherapy, mammograms, biopsies and surgery are procedures to treat cancer, but they are not treating it to enable life to be reclaimed.  They are disabling life, they are destroying your immune system, and they are putting you at an extreme disadvantage for life.

If you feel your life is difficult (and it will become apparently difficult if your health becomes under pressure as tumours start growing in you), if you have felt at times the toll that it takes daily on your body as energy is consumed by your tumour then imagine yourself FREE. Free from any kind of consuming energy.

LET FREEDOM BE YOUR GOAL AND ASK FOR LIFE IN WHOLENESS.

Kathleen Murray

Why Crystal Skulls…                       

Kathleen Murray

November 2005 Article for Network Magazine, Ireland

Crystals choose all different kinds of shapes to grow into – natural points, massive blocks and fantastical shapes which express their geological structure.  And then they are carved and polished into spheres, eggs, tumbled stones, pyramids and skulls. I have worked with crystals for many years in my healing work before I encountered a crystal skull. Why skulls?

I have found that people can relate very easily to the beauty, shine, textures and inspirational colour which crystals give. People can hold spheres, cuddle stones and feel comfort, joy and inspiration from the depths of light and rainbows which interplay within and on the surface of crystals. But nothing challenges them as much as a crystal skull. With other crystals it is easy to lose oneself within the crystalline kingdom. With skulls the human element is always reflected back. There is no evading yourself, can you forget how vulnerable you are when faced with an image which could be you once dead?

Crystals that choose to become skulls have a journey to interact with humans, on healing the very human conditions that cause our disease and pain. They are here to help us expand our awareness. At first we have to face our own mortality before we are going to be comfortable with sitting with a crystal skull. They hold the energy of Eternity within their presence. Can we do the same? They reflect back the beauty we hold inside ourselves, and often it is the power of our beauty, light and clarity which most intimidates us. Crystal skulls help us shift through illusions of self.

There are many ancient skulls all around the world, found in many civilizations. Going back to pre-history there are stories of crystal skulls in Atlantis. They have been found in Mexico, South America, North America, Tibet, China and Mongolia. The skull image is now being carved by contemporary carvers in Mexico, Brazil, China and Germany. Skulls are commonly for sale in crystal shops now. It wasn’t the case 9 years ago, it wasn’t the case 5 years ago, and so why are they here now?

There is an old North American legend about 13 ancient human sized crystal skulls with movable jaws that are said to speak or sing. These skulls are said to contain important information about the origins, purpose and destiny of mankind, and answers to some of the greatest mysteries of life and the universe. This has been handed down by generations of Native Americans over thousands of years, and variations are found in several Native American tribes, the Mayas and Aztec descendants of Central America, Pueblo and Navajo Indians and Cherokee and Seneca Indians form north east America.

“Indigenous people all over the world have long believed that quartz crystal can provide an access point in to this spiritual dimension. Like my own teachers, and shamans or ‘dreamers’ the world over, some people are able to use the crystal skulls to transit the different dimensions, to go from the physical world into the non-physical world and find answers or make changes or perform healings which can affect us back in our ordinary physical world.” These are the words of Jamie Sams, the world’s best-selling Native American author. Jamie has Cherokee, Seneca, Scottish and French ancestry. She spent most of her earlier life as an apprentice to a medicine man in Mexico. She is well known for her production of Medicine Cards (the discovery of power through the ways of animals). She is also author of the Sacred Path cards, Dancing the Dream, and the Thirteen Original Clan mothers, a book which refers to the 13 crystal skulls.

There are many myths about 13 crystal skulls and the Mayans originally had 13; but many others were left with other indigenous peoples around the world. According to the original teaching passed down through the Council of Quiche Mayan Elders, Don Alejandro who is the high priest and head ‘day-keeper’ or wisdom keeper’ says there were originally 52 skulls in various sacred  centres around the world, including many with other Native American tribes, some even in Tibet and with the aborigines of Australia.

“But for the council of elders, we see how the skulls are the mothers and fathers of science; they are the first messengers of love and peace in the whole of the world. Everything you want to know about astronomy can be understood through those skulls, and every other type of study which can be understood- archaeology, anthropology and environmental science…The skulls will only transmit knowledge if that knowledge is to be used for the good of Mother Earth and not for your personal gain.”

“And so the Council of Elders is now meeting, guided by the prophecies and by the wisdom of the skulls, because now is the time to awaken the world,” says Don Alejandro, High Priest of the Mayan Elders.

Hunbatz Men, is a Mayan elder who in recent years, has been calling skull guardians from all over the world to come together for the good of humankind, “The Crystal skulls teach us to expand our consciousness, to become more aware of what is around us. When your awareness increases, your sense of yourself and of other people grows. Your sense of your own relationship with other people grows too. You start to see the interconnections between you and this helps you to develop your compassion… The skulls help us to see that each living being has a spirit within them, and that is a reflection of the Great Spirit which is within all.”

Patricio Dominguez is a spiritual adviser to his native Pueblo people and he believes that the crystal skulls are complete depositories of knowledge and each skull contains a particular specialist area of information – like a living library.

Leon Secatero is a chief, or a spiritual leader as he prefers to be called, to a small band of Navajo Indians on the Canoncito reservation. It has not been the tradition for tribal elders to speak of the skulls, but the Navajo elders had spoken of a time when the people of the Earth would all learn to speak the same language. Then the grandchildren of the white people would come and ask the Native Americans to share their knowledge and wisdom, and show them how together they could save the Earth from destruction. So now Elders like Leon are speaking out about the skulls. The Navajo have always been a fiercely independent people, nomadic people. When the Spanish first arrived in the area, the Canoncito were known to them as the ‘skull people’.

Leon says, “The skulls are like a map of our human potential…they contain the set of original instructions for the whole of humanity, they set our limitations, they define what we are  and what we are about to become…We, like the crystal skulls, were once created in the mind of these beings from another dimension. The crystal skulls are what they used as a template to bring us into our physical and material form. And so we are all invisibly linked to this original act of creation, whether we like it or not.

“Every human being has a connection with the crystal skulls, for the unheard sound of creation also vibrates from the crystal skull to your own skull and it is already in your thoughts.

“Like DNA, the crystal skulls are like a set of directions, a blueprint, or a template if you like, for the role of humanity with in the universe.”

Crystal Skulls may always contain an enigma. We may never find that we fully realise their purpose. In the nine years that I have had a crystal skull in my life, I have witnessed healing in many situations. Even in Brazil, where I didn’t speak the same language and local village people from the mountains who knew nothing about the supposed powers of the skulls told me through an interpreter they received healing from holding my crystal skull.

All I know is that I have had many adventures with my first one and I am guardian of seven now. I am happy sharing the potential of ancient and contemporary crystal skulls in my healing sessions and workshops where I use sound and light to activate these eternal beings. I have witnessed the wonderful environments they can create with their energy, to inspire and help people on their path of growth. Skulls? Why not!

Crystal Skulls in my Life                      

November 2005

Kathleen Murray

Article for Network Magazine, Ireland 

The first crystal skull came into my life in 1996. I had been given one in meditation in December 1995 while I was seeking more joy into my life. I didn’t think too much about the ‘gift’, as after the series of meditations dedicated to Finding the Lost Treasures of Joy, I felt my biggest gift – Joy in my heart.

Mahasamatman, as the skull called himself, is quite a character. He was sent to me by a crystal importer who didn’t know what to do with him. A skull had been requested by a customer but not wanted when it arrived from Brazil. Would I give it a home?

I sat down with another channeller, Chris Sell, the weekend after his arrival in Scotland to find out any information on where it had come from and what it was about. We met with a group of light beings from Orion who said they were the creators of the skull and that the skull contained records of Orion.

Life went into the fast track, a couple of months after the skull arrived I went out to Brazil to see if I could find out more about his story. He said he wasn’t carved but dropped into an energy vortex up in Amazonia, near Peru. This was not the first time I had crystals tell me this story. A wonderful sphere which became the main communicator for my earth healing team of spheres also told me this story. There were native people who knew that crystals manifest in the energy vortex and they took them down river in boats to trade for goods. The arrangement suited everybody.

Well, I wanted to know if this was true! I was given the contact details for the Brazilian carvers by Ceri Thomas, co-author of the book ‘The Mysteries of the Crystal Skulls’. I travelled with a companion to Governados Valedares, high up in Minais Gerais to meet Damian, an American who had been working with carvers to make large crystal skulls. At this time in 1996, no one else was carving large crystal skulls. When I had spoken to Damian on the phone, he was convinced that if I had recently received a crystal skull from Brazil then it had to come from his carvers.

Damian took one look at it and said it didn’t come from his workshops. I couldn’t speak or understand Portuguese, so Damian translated what his head carver had to say about Mahasamatman. Well he did later, when we had left Marcio the carver. Marcio had asked him not to translate what he said! He thought Mahasamatman was ugly. The carvers use diamond cutting tools and pride themselves in cutting straight lines. The teeth are always immaculate and symmetrical. Mahasamatman’s teeth look as though they were casually carved out of clay, very rough and uneven. His ‘nose’ is triangular and with the same casual markings in the middle. Marcio said he didn’t know how to make the marks on this quartz skull.

I had been able to hear the skull clearly since it arrived, and it told me it wanted to stay in Scotland to help with the Earth Healing projects I had been given by my guides and the devic kingdoms. I guess I was glad of the help. Chris and I, in mediations had been aware of another energy which we were told would join us, to hold a triangular resonance for a Star Consciousness workshop we were holding at Rhynie at the summer solstice. We thought this other energy was a human being. Then we realized it was the skull!

The adventures started there and have never finished. I wrote and self-published my first book ‘The Divine Spark of Creation’, the crystal skull speaks in 1998. It follows some of the adventures in Brazil and my personal story of what happened when a crystal skull came into my life. There are also channellings and the unfolding of a bigger global picture.

While out in Brazil, in a cave I ‘saw’ a team of etheric skulls around my one – in total a team of thirteen. Months later I was asked to channel the energies from the etheric skulls which belonged to different stellar vibrations. I was very resistant, went through a car crash, began a deep journey of healing and over many months in 1997 was attuned to these vibrations – civilizations from the stars which have seeded humanity- helped by the master Hilarion along with my own guides. The images which accompany the book are to help people attune to their own stellar selves, as we all have a heritage from the stars.

Now I know that my first crystal skull was like the first child in a family–the one to take you through all the initiations!! I was adamant after having so many intense life changes (after the car accident I closed my shop and healing centre in Aberdeen to concentrate on healing and channelling), that one skull in my life was enough. I remember being absolutely adamant! Too much work to do with this one I would grumble.

However life will move at its own pace, and things set in motion don’t stop because some-one is being resistant to their life’s path! In 2000 my soul sister Do who helped me with publishing my book, began to speak about a new skull that wanted to come in. She was given the name Kalif. She asked me to find it. I contacted my friend in the States who commissioned special large crystal skulls to be carved in China. He sent photos and I showed them to Do. “Yes that one is Kalif “ she said, and Kalif was sent over to Scotland.

The same month Kalif arrived Do was diagnosed with cancer, and our first project working with Kalif was working with sound and light to help her resolve all her soul issues before she died. It was the most difficult channelling I have ever done – to tell her they were waiting for her on the other side, with tears streaming down my face. I prayed every day for a miracle – how could I do otherwise? The father of my newborn baby diagnosed his cancer a few months before, healed the growth in his leg and then left us, as though he wanted nothing in his life to remind him of life before or with the cancer.

I desperately needed help to cope with these traumas. The healing system given to me in light with symbols and pictures I painted (called Imprints of Wholeness), are on Kalif’s page. I have been teaching and sharing this Lemurian Vibrational Healing system now since 2001. And I have had feedback that people have received healing from looking at the pictures and symbols on the web.

I found it difficult to warm to Kalif in the beginning, so full of grief at loss of my friend Do. I remember thinking I would much rather have Do alive and no more skulls. But Kalif came into my care to continue the great work.

I surrendered. By the end of 2001 I had been offered an ancient jade skull which was found in a tomb in Mongolia. Jade, as I imaginatively called her, has sigils which are symbols from the unconscious carved on top of her skull, and a hieroglyph at the back of her skull. She is hollow, large and one of a few jade skulls and a couple of skeletons found together (yes I said skeletons!).

In December 2003 I was sent a lovely tiny opal skull by a friend from the States. It came with the story that it had been carved by Mexican Indians, and while with my friend in Texas it had the authenticated pearls from Buddha’s body placed on its crown chakra (it is flat on top). What a beautiful and strong vibration!

 In March 2004 a double jade skull with shaman’s masks carved on their third eyes, which I call the Twins, was offered to me. The twins are gorgeous, small – thank goodness, as I travel to do workshops with my skulls and the collection is growing fast.

My most recent arrival is not a crystal skull, but the skull of a Tibetan Lama. He arrived in July this year. Unlike the crystal skulls which talk of empowerment for human beings. The lama likes to be obeyed! He is very good at handing out instructions and likes to be in a box when he requests.

I work with sound and light with my skulls. I have a Light Labyrinth and music visualiser which is a piece of sophisticated light technology to visualise sound. I can place crystals or the skulls on the Light labyrinth which is like a light box with a motherboard inside. It has a computer programme which changes light forms, creating an environment which will synchronise your brain waves into the alpha state, a state of great relaxation, healing and inspiration. It is designed to take you into the thresholds of light, Liminal Light.

I really enjoy the consciousness changing work I do with people in workshops or individual sessions, calling together people who are ready, or willing to stand up and be counted, as healers or peace makers, light workers or shining beacons for others to follow.

Together we make the difference. Together we can hold the visions of Love and Peace for humanity, to pave the way for the healing of all conflict, internal and external in our worlds. As we heal and love ourselves, opening to the Divine within everything, we will hold the vibrations that can change not only this world, now but all worlds, healing the past, becoming whole and wise within the Oneness of All Consciousness.

May you be the inspiration that you are!

Message from Crystal Skulls
(the Maya call them the sacred heads)

Kindred Spirit 2008 

We are here to help you remember how sacred you are, how eternal you. We are here to help you move into the power of love within your hearts that is eternally Divine. Within the embodiment of Divinity for the human race are the processes of healing which is the human journey. We can touch more deeply into humanity because we as crystalline beings hold the form of the skull, we can touch the parts of you in a way that no other crystals do – it is our mission. We make an impact deeper than other forms of crystal consciousness in spheres, natural or polished crystals, all of which have a part to play in the enlightenment of this beautiful planet.

 We carry within us the messages of the ancients – your ancestors from the stars. We are your ancestors, and we remind you that you are your ancestors too. Crystal skull consciousness is larger than carved skull heads, whether ancient or contemporary. It can be found in rocks and stones and other crystal forms. We are living beings of Divine light carrying love and we are committed to assisting each and every one of you to achieve your goals. We invite you to connect with us and to let us be your companions on your spiritual journey.

Crystal Skulls – Focus for Light, Healing and Consciousness

Kathleen Murray

Published in Positive Health Online Magazine 2009 

The first crystal skull came into my life in 1996. I had been given one in meditation in December 1995 while I was seeking more joy into my life. I didn’t think too much about the ‘gift’, as after the series of meditations dedicated to Finding the Lost Treasures of Joy, I felt my biggest gift – Joy in my heart.

Mahasamatman, as the skull called himself, or Sammie as he/she is now known, is quite a character. Life went into the fast track, a couple of months after the skull arrived I went out to Brazil to see if I could find out more about his story. He said he wasn’t carved but dropped into an energy vortex up in Amazonia, near Peru. This was not the first time I had crystals tell me this story. A wonderful sphere which became the main communicator for my earth healing team of spheres also told me this story. There were native people who knew that crystals manifest in the energy vortex and they took them down river in boats to trade for goods. The arrangement suited everybody.

I had been able to hear the skull clearly since it arrived, and it told me it wanted to stay in Scotland to help with the Earth Healing projects I had been given by my guides and the devic kingdoms. I guess I was glad of the help.

While out in Brazil, in a cave I ‘saw’ a team of etheric skulls around my one – in total a team of thirteen. Months later I was asked to channel the energies from the etheric skulls which belonged to different stellar vibrations. I was very resistant, went through a car crash, began a deep journey of healing and over many months in 1997 was attuned to these vibrations – civilizations from the stars which have seeded humanity- helped by the master Hilarion along with my own guides. The images which accompany the book I wrote “The Divine Spark of Creation” are to help people attune to their own stellar selves, as we all have a heritage from the stars.

There is an old North American legend about 13 ancient human sized crystal skulls with movable jaws that are said to speak or sing. These skulls are said to contain important information about the purpose, origins and destiny of humanity, answering some of the questions about the great mysteries of life and the universe. The legend has been handed down by generations of Native Americans over thousands of years, with variations in several Native American tribes. The Mayas and Aztec descendants of Central America, Pueblo and Navajo Indians and Cherokee and Seneca Indians from north east America also hold variants of this legend.

There are many ancient skulls all around the world, found in many civilizations, going back to pre-history there are stories of crystal skulls in Atlantis. They have been found in Mexico, South America, North America, Tibet, China and Mongolia. The skull image is now being carved by contemporary carvers in Mexico, Brazil, China and Germany. Skulls are commonly for sale in crystal shops now. It wasn’t the case 10 years ago, it wasn’t the case 5 years ago, why are they here now?

 “Indigenous people all over the world have long believed that quartz crystal can provide an access point in to this spiritual dimension. Like my own teachers, and shamans or ‘dreamers’ the world over, some people are able to use the crystal skulls to transit the different dimensions, to go from the physical world into the non-physical world and find answers or make changes or perform healings which can affect us back in our ordinary physical world.” Ref.1.

These are the words of Jamie Sams who is well known for her production of Medicine Cards (the discovery of power through the ways of animals). She is also author of the Sacred Path cards, Dancing the Dream, and the Thirteen Original Clan mothers, a book which refers to the 13 crystal skulls.

There are many myths about 13 crystal skulls and the Mayans originally had 13; but many others were left with other indigenous peoples around the world. According to the original teaching passed down through the Council of Quiche Mayan Elders, Don Alejandro who is the high priest and head ‘day-keeper’ or ‘wisdom keeper’ says there were originally 52 skulls in various sacred centres around the world, including many with other Native American tribes, some even in Tibet and with the aborigines of Australia.

“But for the council of elders, we see how the skulls are the mothers and fathers of science; they are the first messengers of love and peace in the whole of the world. Everything you want to know about astronomy can be understood through those skulls, and every other type of study which can be understood- archeology, anthropology and environmental science…” Ref.2.

“The skulls will only transmit knowledge if that knowledge is to be used for the good of Mother Earth and not for your personal gain…” Ref.3.

“And so the Council of Elders is now meeting, guided by the prophecies and by the wisdom of the skulls, because now is the time to awaken the world.” Ref. 4.

Hunbatz Men, is a Mayan elder who in recent years, has been calling skull guardians from all over the world to come together for the good of humankind, “The Crystal skulls teach us to expand our consciousness, to become more aware of what is around us. When your awareness increases, your sense of yourself and of other people grows. Your sense of your own relationship with other people grows too. You start to see the interconnections between you and this helps you to develop your compassion… The skulls help us to see that each living being has a spirit within them, and that is a reflection of the Great Spirit which is within all.” Ref.5.

Leon Secatero is a chief, or a spiritual leader as he prefers to be called, to a small band of Navajo Indians on the Canoncito reservation. It has not been the tradition for tribal elders to speak of the skulls, but the Navajo elders had spoken of a time when the people of the Earth would all learn to speak the same language. Then the grandchildren of the white people would come and ask the Native Americans to share their knowledge and wisdom, and show them how together they could save the Earth from destruction. So now Elders like Leon are speaking out about the skulls. The Navajo have always been a fiercely independent people, nomadic people. When the Spanish first arrived in the area, the Canoncito were known to them as the ‘skull people’.

 “The skulls are like a map of our human potential…they contain the set of original instructions for the whole of humanity, they set our limitations, they define what we are  and what we are about to become…We, like the crystal skulls, were once created in the mind of these beings from another dimension. The crystal skulls are what they used as a template to bring us into our physical and material form. And so we are all invisibly linked to this original act of creation, whether we like it or not.” Ref.6.

“Every human being has a connection with the crystal skulls, for the unheard sound of creation also vibrates from the crystal skull to your own skull and it is already in your thoughts.” Ref.7.

Crystals that choose to become skulls have a journey to interact with humans, on healing the very human conditions that cause our disease and pain. They are here to help us expand our awareness. At first we have to face our own mortality before we are going to be comfortable with sitting with a crystal skull. They hold the energy of Eternity within their presence. Can we do the same? They reflect back the beauty we hold inside ourselves, and often it is the power of our beauty, light and clarity which most intimidates us. Crystal skulls help us shift through illusions of self.

Crystal Skulls may always contain an enigma. We may never find that we fully realise their purpose. In the 13 years since I have had a crystal skull in my life, I have witnessed healing in many situations. Even in Brazil, where I didn’t speak the same language and local village people from the mountains who knew nothing about the supposed powers of the skulls told me through an interpreter they received healing from holding Mahasamatman, my first crystal skull.

In 2000 I was given Kalif, a large contemporary carved smokey skull with elestial crystals growing inside, who has given me the information to introduce a healing system from Lemuria, called Crystal Keys. In 2001 I was offered an ancient jade skull which was found in a tomb in Mongolia. Jade, as I imaginatively called her, has sigils which are symbols from the unconscious carved on top of her skull, and a hieroglyph at the back of her skull. She is hollow, large and one of a few jade skulls and a couple of skeletons found together (yes I said skeletons!).

 In March 2004 a double jade skull with shaman’s masks carved on their third eyes, which I call the Twins, was offered to me. The twins are gorgeous, small – thank goodness, as I travel to do workshops with my skulls and the collection is growing fast.

I work with sound and light with my skulls. I have a Light Labyrinth and music visualiser which is a piece of sophisticated light technology to visualise sound. I can place crystals or the skulls on the Light labyrinth which is like a light box with a motherboard inside. It has a computer programme which changes light forms, creating an environment which will synchronise your brain waves into the alpha state, a state of great relaxation, healing and inspiration. It is designed to take you into the thresholds of light, Liminal Light.

I really enjoy the consciousness changing work I do with people in workshops or individual sessions, calling together people who are ready, or willing to stand up and be counted, as healers or peace makers, light workers or shining beacons for others to follow.

Together we make the difference. Together we can hold the visions of Love and Peace for humanity, to pave the way for the healing of all conflict, internal and external in our worlds. As we heal and love ourselves, opening to the Divine within everything, we will hold the vibrations that can change not only this world, now but all worlds, healing the past, becoming whole and wise within the Oneness of All Consciousness.

References:

1.           Chris Morton and Ceri Louise Thomas. The Mystery of the Crystal Skulls. Thorsons. London. p.282. ISBN 0-7225-3485-X. 1997.

2.           Chris Morton and Ceri Louise Thomas. Ibid. p.347.

3.           Chris Morton and Ceri Louise Thomas. Ibid. p.348.

4.           Chris Morton and Ceri Louise Thomas. Ibid. p349.

5.           Chris Morton and Ceri Louise Thomas. Ibid. p359

6.           Chris Morton and Ceri Louise Thomas. Ibid. p251.

7.           Chris Morton and Ceri Louise Thomas. Ibid. p252. 

About the Author: Kathleen Murray has always been a seeker, a musician, an artist and journeyer. The psychic abilities that she was born with flourished when she began working with crystals and in particular crystal skulls.

She is the author of “The Divine Spark of Creation, the crystal skull speaks.” Galactic Publications, Huntly ISBN 1-902711-00-9 and a Boxed Set of book and cards ISBN 1-902711-05-X 1998.

Kathleen is the Director of the Academy of Crystal and Natural Healing, in Rhynie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland where she runs 2 year part- time Diploma courses for Crystal and Gem Therapy; Colour Therapy and Advanced Vibrational Medicine. She is a presenter at International Conferences and has given workshops and Earth Healing Ceremonies in Iceland, Brazil, Australia, America, Holland, France, Belgium, Greece and Hungary.